I know these things are cheap, but are they crappy quality? or are they just cheap because there are so many of them? Thanks.
anybody have an idea what the max range is? That it can still be accurate without too much drop?
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Some are good quality others arent. The earlier the gun the better its going to be. It might make a good elk gun if you are hunting them at close range.
They are cheap for both reasons. The quality isn’t that great, and there are millions of them on the market. The bolt is awkward, and they aren’t that ergonomic, like a new sporting rifle. But what they do, and do it well, is push out a bullet with roughly the same ballistics as a .30-06. As far as elk hunting, it’s up to you. If you are spending thousands of dolalrs on a once-in-a-lifetime hunt, you might want to invest in a better rifle. But if you’re lucky enough to live in an area where elk hunting is a down-the-country-road affair, the Mosin should be OK. If you do your part, and put the bullet in a vital area, the gun and cartridge will put meat on the table.
Their quality is as good as you might expect for the finest, mass-produced, Soviet made, 1891 technology, bolt action, main battle rifle that was made 65+ years ago. In in other words, they are rugged, simple, reliable, heavy, not very suited for modern scopes, and maybe you can hit a man-size object at 300 yards from a supported position. Oh, and did I mention you may have to attach the bayonet to get optimal accuracy? They are cheap because they made millions of the then and stored them away for WWIII until the iron curtain fell, so they are more than curios than collectibles (though there are some sought after rare ones). And for less than $300 you can buy a brand new Savage Edge 30-06 and have a much better rifle.
I own three 91/30s and they are fun to shoot (nice muzzle blast), but I would only consider hunting standard deer at 150 yrs or less. Hunting with them is a novelty, IMO. Yes, I know that the sight goes to 2000 meters, but that was not for aimed fire, but rather mass volleys from a bunch of troops on one side at a bunch of troops to on the other side. They have ballistics in the .308 and 30-06 neighborhood (depending on the load) and you are pretty limited to soft point hunting ammo, unless you roll your own.
They are cheap because the Soviets made about 30 million of them and I know I could get better machining from a high school shop class.
It certainly has the power but the iron sights on it leave a lot to be desired. If you can get it consistently in a pie plate at 100 yards I would accept it as accurate enough but the ergonomics on it are pretty bad. The 91/30 is long, heavy, awkward/difficult to operate and the stock wasn’t exactly designed with comfort and accuracy in mind.
You could hunt elk with it but the rough action makes it more of a single shot rifle when compared to a Mauser type bolt action.
The max range is as far as you can shoot it accurately. Maybe with a better stock and a scope you can get it down to something like 2-3 MOA if you have a good rifle.
Still though, I would pass on it and buy an actual hunting rifle even if it is used. You will get so much more for your money.
Simply put: – NO.
It’s a low velocity cartridge, and the sights are not up to anywhere near modern standards.
The rifle is an military gun and likely beat to cr*p before you get your hands on it.
I have an M91/30 they are not crap unless you get a war time rifle because they were trying to pump them out of the factory as fast as possible. I have a 1938, it was made in the izhevsk factory. I love mine, max range is over 700 yards with a good scope or if you have someone to spot you. They made millions of the M91/30 that’s why they are so cheap. If you can find one made in the Tula factory those are supposedly made better but mine does not have one flaw on it. just remember not to get any war time rifles. not that they are beat up but they have flaws on the out side of the barrel and receiver. it will still shoot just fine but it won’t look as good.
Over 17 million Mosin rifles manufactured; some were even made by Remington and Westinghouse Electric. Early on some were even chambered for 30-06 and used by the US Army when we got caught short and were playing catch up. It was designed in a day when people used trenches and shot at each other at a range of up to a thousand yards. They are known as the unltimate soldiers rifle in that they are virtually indestructible and don’t require a rocket scietist to operate; plus the fact that if they will function in Siberia they will work anywhere else on the face of the planet. The caliber is right between the 308 and 30-06 with a rim and will take down anything in the lower 48 with no problem. Russians scoped quite a few of them for snipers after scopes came into more common usage; Russian Army loves snipers, their company structure has more snipers included than any other army on earth.